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>> reporter: unfortunately, dad didn't order his album yet, but now he will. on upper west side, jill nicolini. >> i was so jealous of that assignment. coming up, we talk to cold play ahead of their big gig. >> we'll see you at 7:00. >> from washington, "the mclaughlin group," the american original. for over three decades, the sharpest minds, best sources, hardest talk. john: issue one -- next stop, new hampshire. ted cruz and hillary clinton took the fir th issue one, next stop, new hampshire. >> tonight -- >> ted cruz and hillary clinton took the first victories of the 2016 presidential election, winning the respect of democratic and republican
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but february is a cruel master to presidential candidates. so foregoing sleep, the campaigns jeted off to new hampshire to mobilize supporters for tuesday's primary. but wile analysts say donald trump and bernie sanders are the likely victors from tuesday, others also have much at stake. notably hillary clinton and jeb bush. if bernie sanders defeats mrs. clinton by a significant margin, her campaign will lose the big mo political momentum. if jeb bush fails to score a respectful support, he'll face calls to suspend his campaign and endorse senator marco rubio. >> if you've got something to say, say it directly. if i'm so fortunate as to be the nominee, first person i will call to talk to about where we go and how we get it done will be senator sanders.
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hampshire? pat buchanan. >> i would say marco rubio has the most to gain. he came out of iowa running third, but he got far more of a bump than cruz did by winning it and as of now he is moving closer and closer to trump, maybe 10 points behind. if he won new hampshire, i don't think he's going to, but if he did, he would suddenly become the all around favorite of the establishment in washington. and he would be on his way to an end of the finals for the republican nomination. trump i think has the most to lose. if he loses new hampshire. but my guess is, john, trump is going to win new hampshire and then it's going to move on down to south carolina and for a while we're going to have a three-way race. maybe bush will go to south carolina because of all his money. but i think we're going to have a lot of governors who don't survive new hampshire. a lot of folks will be leaving, when next we meet. >> right.
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most to lose because they're now the front-runners and cruz has to show his iowa win wasn't just a one off, that he has backing. problem with cruz is a lot of people don't like him, and that's beginning to, i think, weigh his candidacy down. i think rubio clearly has the most to gain, because he does seem like the most likely republican nominee to actually gain some support from the general public. he's a very attractive guy. he's also a very untested, unexperienced guy, and i thought chris christie's comments calling him the boy in the bubble because all his events are scripted, trying to make him look presidential. rick sanatorium couldn't come up with a single accomplishment rubio had in the senate, and his campaign released a list of his accomplishments, which were
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he'll get his turn in the barrel. i think he could win new hampshire actually. on the democratic side, i think hillary and bernie are kind of, they're tied. i think it's an energetic debate. i think their appearance together the other night is keeping a lot of interest in the race. i think hillary clinton is still the likely nominee. she's got to keep her cool and not attack sanders too much, because she really needs his supporters in november. >> i think marco rubio clearly had that shocker in iowa and it's built up his momentum. you see consolidation moving towards rubio. and i suspect pat is right, if in new hampshire marco rubio does well, and i think he's expected to do well, i think there's an outside chance he
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because of that big moment, i think you'll see jeb, chris christy, kasich. as much as pat would say it's the washington candidate, if you put those together along side rubio, you quickly get a sizable figure for marco rubio that i think puts him at the front of the race. >> the revelations about the cruz campaign, is trump justified in saying cruz stole the iowa election? >> no, he's not justified in saying that. what's so remarkable about donald trump is his ability, with just a few tweets, to create the next 12 hours of what the campaign cycle is going to be all about. the second that i saw him do a little twitter storm attacking ted cruz for stealing the
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going to be the thing the cable networks are going to focus on, the candidates will start getting asked about, so it does throw cruz's game off. his entire strategy this time is to wait out everybody else and be one of the last two standing. he'd be the anti-establishment guy running up against marco rubio. he has a ton to lose if donald trump sticks around and becomes a donald trump versus whoever they put up there. >> does it make or break time for jeb bush? >> he's broken. he was broken several months ago. he has $100 million to carry him forward, but he's broken. >> let me talk about the, there's something very major going on in this country, look, we were talking trump got 5,000 people at mill ford, new hampshire. these mammoth crowds he's gotten is incredible, and cruz is part of this revolution
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revolution against the democratic establishment. if both these campaigns, or these campaigns fail and you wind up with a rubio versus hillary, you got a whole half of america, which had all its enthusiasm up, alienateed -- >> you can speak for the republican side, but the democratic side doesn't have to end up that way. first of all, they're not angry at the democratic establishment, they're angry at the political system more as a whole. i think in the end, if sanders doesn't get the nomination, i don't he will, he'll be out there telling his people to go with hillary and whoever the republicans nominated will get those people energizeed. how? >> yeah, i don't see -- >> how? they're not going to want a republican government. >> i don't see any great enthusiasm -- cruz has got a lot, i agree.
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but the other republicans are just, excuse me, would be debates -- primaries? each side, please. >> i missed iowa on both, so i'm going to go with trump, trump in new hampshire, and bernie with a good margin. >> sanders in new hampshire. hillary is going to close that margin somewhat. and trump, but i would not be surprised if rubio won. >> i'm here to roll the dice and hopefully get on the daily show like clarence, i'm going to say rubio and sanders. >> what's this about the daily show? >> clarence is featured because he got the correct predictions. >> i see, good.
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shocking win and i think hillary. >> it's search, trump and sand -- simple, trump and sanders. >> that's what i told you. >> i picked it up. there it was laying there. coughing up blood.
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john: issue two -- message in a tank.
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>> it will be a timely and significant contribution to collective defense. this proposal is a vivid demonstration of the strength of our transatlantic bond. >> president obama took charge of the oval office seven years ago. he promised a positive reset in relations with russia. but, with the radioactive poisoning of a british spy in london, the downing of passenger jets over europe, and the aggressive advances of russian forces from ukraine to syria, president putin has rebuked mr. obama. this week president obama announced a $2.9 billion, spent
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into nato member states, including estonia, lithuania and laftia. >> john, the question is who started cold war 2, and i think we did. soviets, they gave up all of eastern europe, the whole thing came apart. wanted to be friends of the united states. we moved nato into the baltic republics, three of which they were part of the soviet union. putin is reacting to that. he's got a tremendous, or significant military buildup and now we're reacting to that. my view is, i am not against frankly our next president trying to a real reset, and we get away from this faceoff, and any kind of war between the united states and russia, would be the end of estonia and a disaster every great president of the cold war avoided.
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of nato happened under bill clinton and was approved of by his successors, including republican president george w. bush, so this is not a policy that barack obama -- no, no, when obama took office he dealt well with putin's predecessor and we had a few good years. and putin came in flexing his muscles. you think obama should sit back and say that's fine with us? the baltic nations are nervous about all the needling by putin who is trying to comment for -- >> germans will be sending troops in there, too? >> i don't think we want germany beefing up their military. >> [inaudible] >> yes, yes, we have strategic interest there. >> in estonia? >> that whole area.
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for let these little countries for let these little countries go one of these days, and i never believed that would happen, now it's a strategic -- [ everyone talking at once ] it. pat is right, the european union has done far too little. i say pull out the base es from germany, put them -- the germans spend far too little on defense. at the same time, i would disagree with pat. putin is pushing now, because he senses he can push. he didn't push it with president bush because he sensed he couldn't. i would specifically point to what happened in the deal with chemical weapons, which was a fake deal and everyone knows it was a fake deal. the credibility deficit is such that putin keeps pushing the line. how do you balance against having a war with the russians?
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finance -- >> you're talking economic sanctions, if russia misbehaves, i agree 100%. the idea you're going to -- russia is in there backing the legitimate government, recognized government of syria. we're supporting the rebels. our enemy is isis. cases -- >> you can still work with putin in that area. >> sure, we worked -- >> but a little display of force in europe, where our european allies are -- >> nail it down a little bit, what moves is president obama taking to bolster europe against russia. are you with me on that? >> he's doing what putin wants, because putin is weak at home, and that's why he's pushing abroad at the moment. wherever a strong guy is looking weak, then he needs to find some enemies to push around so rally his country around him. putting all these military
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allows him to prop himself up and say, look, see, here comes the united states. >> russian people love him standing up to the united states, because they think we double crossed them at the end of the cold war. >> somewhere out there mitt romney is doing a high five, because the pentagon put russia as the top military threat to the u.s. romney predicted that and -- >> why are they a threat to the united states? >> because they're undercutting balance of power in europe, under cutting democrat values, they support the slaughter of innocent people -- >> what do you think our egyptian allies are doing now? >> i agree with that. it's not a binary thing, one or the other -- [ everyone talking at once ] >> the greatest vital issue is united states and china avoid
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got in twice in the last century. >> do you think it's not more likely we give him that sense of opportunity that conflict comes? >> he'll be delighted in what we're doing because he can match it three times over from his own base. >> question, what moves is president obama taking in asia to counter china? >> he's moving his boats around the south china sea again, fooling around with these tiny ilets. it's not our quarrel. >> he's also working with china on climate change, big issues, not -- this is not one policy fits every area. pat, you're generally an isolationist, i think -- >> no, i just don't want to get into another war. >> neither i do, and i think this is under the label of deterrence. >> 75%, a huge amount of
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through those waters. >> if the chinese interfered with our trade, i agree. >> what if the islands become fortresses, it becomes more difficult to interfere. >> the philippines are, taiwan have one of the islands they claimed. stay out of these quarrels. >> issue three, kurds, turkeys and geneva. representatives of warring factions met in geneva this week, hoping to end a syrian civil war rageed nearly five years and taken 230,000 lives. but their hopes were in vain. with no progress, the talks were postponed to late february. here are the challenges, first turkey has launched a bloody crackdown on kurdish activists, terrorists and civilians. second, russia continues to
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and his campaign against syrian sunnies, which encourages sunnies to fight his rejim. third, turkey and saudi arabia continue to support -- isis is using this political chaos to retain its power across northern and eastern syria. analysts fear innocents across syria, turkey and various refugee camps will endlessly suffer. question, who are the kurds i ask you, ryan grim. >> the kurds are those in northern iran, northern iraq, parts of sir syria and parts of turkey. there are a lot of political coalitions going on here, the iraqi kurds and the syrian kurds are not necessarily
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but when they're up against an to unite. the big problem that we have over there now is you have two conflicts going on at the same time. you have these 20th century conflicts, old grievances we can't move past, combined with grievance. you have turkey and the kurds battling each other, like it's still the 1980s or 1990s. you have russia and the united states swearing you have and russia propping up the government, so effectively the government is pulling out of peace talks. they see victory. they think, why are we going to talk to these moderate rebels if we can wipe them out in several months. >> the problem is, as you mentioned, the turkeys see the kurds as the enemy. they hate the kurds in syria
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but those kurds are our allies and fighting isis. saudis want to bring down assad. he is a dictator and a benevolent one. i say we want to defeat isis first. >> we're saying that, but the president is keeping his distance. >> it's not clear who turkey hates more -- they seem fine with assad and isis up to a degree. >> i think we could have more influence, because the turkish have before formed these essential compromises with different kurdish groups, including the more hard line groups. >> the turks have told the kurds if you cut off the supply
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after you. >> this is the key to put pressure on assad and russia and assad -- but the problem at the moment is they're pushing north and slaughtering people. >> they want to win the war. imagine that. >> but the cities are going to join isis, right? >> question, who's calling the shots in syria today? >> russia. >> is it putin or president obama? >> russia has stepped in, has changed the tide. i think our side was approaching its last legs. the iranians has been bleeding in there. the russians came into the air power and really did something with it, they pounded the rebels and -- >> russia has been an historic ally of syria. i would say let russia have at it and obama should keep on what he's doing, which is not very much.
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>> sounds like bernie sanders, too, and hillary clinton i think. [ everyone talking at once ] >> nobody wants to send u.s. troops. >> exit question, has the time come for obama to cut his losses in syria and embrace the assad regime? >> no. >> i think that's a good question. if the moderate rebels are defeated, we should try to get a cease-fire and get them protected and out. >> the diplomatic settlement will be on the condition that assad is removed. >> that would be perfect. i worry that's possible. >> eventually. >> assad is not going anywhere. we had four or five years to make that happen. it didn't happen. >> good. i'm glad.
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john: prediction, pat? n prediction, pat? >> next we meet, chris christie will be gone from the race, and he will not go quietly. >> if hillary clinton doesn't release the transcripts of her paid speeches, the issue will dog her just like her e-mails. >> when next we meet, jeb bush will be gone. >> marco rubio wins the
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general, buys a $ 10 million boat. >> he said, it's almost inevitable, unquote, in switzerland, and he's right on the money. bye-bye. captions by: caption colorado, llc. (800)775-7838. email: hey, let's go [ beep ] they're piling in the backseat aah! they're generating steam heat pulsating to the back beat the blitzkrieg bop hey, oh, let's go shoot 'em in the back now what they want, i don't know
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